November 20, 2023· 46 min

Why Private Credit's Been Booming Even as Interest Rates Go Up

Orality
Model
70%
Oral-dominant (speeches, podcasts, storytelling)

Speaker Breakdown

HostTracy Alloway(2,257 words)
M:28%
HostJoe Weisenthal(1,096 words)
M:29%
GuestLaura Holson(4,960 words)
M:27%

Oral Indicators

Agonistic28%
literally, completely, absolutely
Engagement77%
you, our, your
Memory Aids100%
listen, now, okay
Repetition100%
know (106x), think (102x), private (95x)
Parallelism100%
And I'm Joe Weisenthal...., But people see an opportunity ..., And I've seen various estimate...
Sound Patterns74%
69 question(s), alliteration: "markets move", alliteration: "barclays brief"
Formulaic Phrases4%
you know what, i mean

Literate Indicators

Hedging8%
maybe, somewhat, could
Passive Voice7%
are then, are structured, was when
Abstract Nouns18%
investment, recommendation, equity
Subordination10%
while, because, since
Sentence Length38%
Avg: 14.6 words/sentence
Word Complexity47%
investment, analyze, anticipate
Academic Markers0%
Impersonal Style23%
717 personal pronouns found
Descriptive Style80%
literally, completely, actually

Description

It's no secret that the market for private credit has boomed in recent years. The surprising thing is that it has continued to do so even as interest rates have surged, defying many people's expectation that this relatively new market would suffer once an era of "loose" money comes to an end. Instead, the market for private credit in the US now rivals the size of the market for publicly-traded, junk-rated corporate bonds. But what exactly is private credit? How does it differ from broadly-syndicated stuff like leverage loans and corporate debt? How susceptible is it to higher rates? What is driving continued interest in this asset class? And what could cause it to wobble? On this episode we speak with Laura Holson of New Mountain Capital — where she manages about $9 billion across various private credit investments — about how the industry works.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.