May 17, 2024· 42 min

Jeff Currie on Why Copper Is His Highest-Conviction Trade Ever

Orality
Model
85%
Oral-dominant (speeches, podcasts, storytelling)

Speaker Breakdown

HostTracy Alloway(1,464 words)
M:28%
HostJoe Weisenthal(1,451 words)
M:29%
GuestJeff Currie(4,587 words)
M:28%

Oral Indicators

Agonistic29%
huge, absolutely, very
Engagement70%
you, our, your
Memory Aids100%
listen, like, so
Repetition100%
know (78x), like (68x), about (59x)
Parallelism89%
And I'm Tracy Alloway...., So the idea that we hadn't inv..., Or electrify the grid, all the...
Sound Patterns76%
63 question(s), alliteration: "markets move", alliteration: "barclays brief"
Formulaic Phrases10%
you know what, i mean, the bottom line

Literate Indicators

Hedging6%
may, fairly, could
Passive Voice3%
was then, been turbocharged, is often
Abstract Nouns20%
investment, community, business
Subordination8%
because, since, hence
Sentence Length40%
Avg: 15.1 words/sentence
Word Complexity46%
investment, analyze, anticipate
Academic Markers0%
Impersonal Style30%
580 personal pronouns found
Descriptive Style96%
apply, undersupply, supply

Description

Copper has long been touted as a big winner from the world's drive towards electrification. All those electric vehicles and new grids need lots of the metal to work. At the same time, since it takes years for new copper mining capacity to actually come on stream, many people expect a long-term shortage of the metal to materialize. But despite all that excitement, copper prices actually fell over the past few years. Now, copper bulls are getting another chance as the metal surges towards a new record. So why didn't the thesis play out before? And what does the mismatch between short-term prices and long-term supply actually mean for the world? In this episode, we speak to Jeff Currie, a long-time copper bull and commodities veteran who's now at Carlyle Group. We talk to him about why copper is his highest-conviction trade ever, plus the outlook for oil and big changes in petrodollars. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.