July 29, 2024· 57 min

Zyns, Vapes and the Very Weird Market for New Nicotine Products

John Coogan

Orality

Model

50%

Speaker Breakdown

HostJoe Weisenthal(1,301 words)

M:29%

HostTracy Alloway(1,831 words)

M:29%

GuestJohn Coogan(6,642 words)

M:27%

Oral Indicators

Agonistic42%

obviously, insane, certainly

Engagement57%

you, our, your

Memory Aids100%

listen, now, so

Repetition100%

like (138x), they (120x), it's (94x)

Parallelism84%

And I'm Tracy Alloway...., But I don't know how long I'm ..., So it's sort of a smoking alte...

Sound Patterns50%

53 question(s), alliteration: "markets move", alliteration: "barclays brief"

Formulaic Phrases6%

at the end of the day, i mean, so to speak

Literate Indicators

Hedging5%

might, maybe, probably

Passive Voice8%

being developed, was even, been studied

Abstract Nouns14%

investment, temptation, observation

Subordination8%

however, because, while

Sentence Length35%

Avg: 13.7 words/sentence

Word Complexity48%

investment, analyze, anticipate

Academic Markers3%

according to

Impersonal Style43%

607 personal pronouns found

Descriptive Style100%

actually, really, secondly

Description

Vapes like Elf bars seem to be everywhere now. Meanwhile, Zyn nicotine pouches have become a huge seller for Philip Morris and are in such demand that it's sometimes hard to find them in stores. So where are all these new nicotine products coming from? What's the regulatory approval process for these? And what is it like to launch a new nicotine product right now? In this episode, we speak with John Coogan, the former co-founder of dietary supplement Soylent and most recently the co-founder of Lucy Goods, which makes nicotine gum. We talk about the booming market for Zyn and other nicotine products, plus the byzantine ways in which some of these companies are structured. We also talk about the death of Juul and how we seem to have ended up with a very strange gray market for vapes. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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