February 27, 2025· 51 min

Goldman's Jared Cohen and George Lee on the Unprecedented Shocks in Geopolitics

Orality
Model
50%

Speaker Breakdown

HostTracy Alloway(1,957 words)
M:94%
GuestGeorge Lee(2,007 words)
M:27%
GuestJared Cohen(4,575 words)
M:27%

Oral Indicators

Agonistic25%
very, totally, completely
Engagement61%
you, our, your
Memory Aids100%
listen, like, now
Repetition100%
know (76x), they (73x), about (70x)
Parallelism96%
And I'm Tracy Alloway...., And I did a pretty good job, T..., And, normally, listeners norma...
Sound Patterns53%
54 question(s), alliteration: "markets move", alliteration: "barclays brief"
Formulaic Phrases4%
you know what, i mean

Literate Indicators

Hedging5%
may, probably, maybe
Passive Voice6%
being unplugged, were surprised, was surprised
Abstract Nouns23%
investment, community, business
Subordination5%
because, whereas, while
Sentence Length45%
Avg: 16.2 words/sentence
Word Complexity50%
investment, analyze, anticipate
Academic Markers0%
Impersonal Style39%
621 personal pronouns found
Descriptive Style74%
apply, recently, probably

Description

The first month of the Trump administration has been noisy and novel by basically any measure. But perhaps the biggest shockwaves have been in the realm of geopolitics. Europeans were caught off guard by a recent speech given by Vice President JD Vance in Munich, calling into doubt the future of the Trans-Atlantic partnership. Meanwhile, when it comes to tariffs, the Trump administration has actually been tougher on Mexico and Canada than it has been on China. Then add into all of this the anxiety over AI domination, as a result of the hype around DeepSeek. So how should we understand these novel risks? And how should investors incorporate them into their thinking? On this episode we speak with Jared Cohen and George Lee, the co-heads of the Goldman Sachs Global Institute. They discuss the future of Europe, what they're expecting from the Trump administration, the rise of the Gulf powers, AI, undersea cables, and the opportunities in identifying what they call "geopolitical swing states" like Japan and India. Odd Lots is coming to Washington, DC! Get your tickets here. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.