June 2, 2025· 46 min

Why It's So Hard for Apple to Move Production from China to India

Orality
Model
89%
Highly oral (epic poetry, sermons, hip-hop)

Speaker Breakdown

HostJoe Weisenthal(2,405 words)
M:93%
HostTracy Alloway(1,139 words)
M:28%
GuestPatrick McGee(5,416 words)
M:28%

Oral Indicators

Agonistic38%
obviously, very, terrible
Engagement51%
you, our, your
Memory Aids100%
listen, like, right
Repetition100%
apple (101x), china (91x), like (90x)
Parallelism86%
And I'm Tracy Alloway...., And we're gonna have a bunch o..., So you should really just go g...
Sound Patterns60%
59 question(s), alliteration: "markets move", alliteration: "barclays brief"
Formulaic Phrases6%
i mean, the thing is, if you will

Literate Indicators

Hedging8%
may, maybe, might
Passive Voice5%
are revealed, are considered, been moved
Abstract Nouns21%
investment, community, business
Subordination8%
although, because, therefore
Sentence Length40%
Avg: 15.0 words/sentence
Word Complexity49%
investment, analyze, anticipate
Academic Markers0%
Impersonal Style49%
506 personal pronouns found
Descriptive Style100%
apply, really, necessarily

Description

President Trump wants Apple to make iPhones in America. The company itself has talked about — and to some extent already has been — moving more of its production to other countries, like India. But in reality, Apple remains deeply, deeply enmeshed in the Chinese supply chain. In fact, the rise of Apple, and the iPhone specifically, is the ultimate example of the link between the American and Chinese economies. And while this has been fruitful for shareholders all around the world, and contributed greatly to Chinese economic development, this relationship is also now perceived to be a huge source of geopolitical vulnerability for the United States. On this episode, we speak with Patrick McGee, a reporter at the Financial Times and the author of the new book Apple In China: The Capture of the World's Greatest Company. He talks to us about how Apple discovered the opportunity of doing more manufacturing in China, and how close the company has become with Chinese political leadership. We walk through both the politics and the economics that makes it almost impossible to imagine the company building its products anywhere else at significant scale. Odd Lots Live is returning to New York City on June 26. Get your tickets here! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.