October 24, 2025· 44 min

Daniel Yergin on What Happened to the Energy Transition

Orality
Model
55%
Mixed oral/literate (blogs, casual essays)

Speaker Breakdown

HostJoe Weisenthal(4,865 words)
M:28%
HostTracy Alloway(1,632 words)
M:28%
GuestDaniel Yergin(1,604 words)
M:28%

Oral Indicators

Agonistic32%
literally, completely, extremely
Engagement64%
you, our, your
Memory Aids100%
listen, now, so
Repetition100%
it's (89x), know (85x), energy (74x)
Parallelism68%
And I'm Jo Rosenthal...., But we seem to be living in th..., And yet we still seem to be st...
Sound Patterns98%
96 question(s), alliteration: "markets move", alliteration: "barclays brief"
Formulaic Phrases4%
you know what, i mean

Literate Indicators

Hedging9%
may, could, somewhat
Passive Voice6%
is solved, been pushed, been pushed
Abstract Nouns22%
investment, recommendation, business
Subordination7%
because, although, though
Sentence Length33%
Avg: 13.1 words/sentence
Word Complexity48%
investment, analyze, anticipate
Academic Markers0%
Impersonal Style36%
633 personal pronouns found
Descriptive Style75%
literally, completely, apply

Description

A few years ago, governments and corporations were brimming with optimism about the prospect of getting to net-zero in the efforts against climate change. Today, you hear a lot less about that. And while there's renewables getting added to the mix all the time, one energy source that's really booming is natural gas. And coal is booming too. So what happened? And is there any prospect of the world getting back on track? On this episode, we speak with acclaimed energy historian Daniel Yergin, current Vice Chairman of S&P Global. He's also, of course, the author of the Pulitzer Prize-winning book The Prize, as well as, more recently, The New Map. We talk about all of the factors that changed the energy picture in recent years and the energy priorities of nations right now. Read more: Russia’s Crude Shipments Climb Close to a Post-Invasion High Trump to Buy 1 Million Barrels to Help Refill Oil Reserve Only http://Bloomberg.com subscribers can get the Odd Lots newsletter in their inbox each week, plus unlimited access to the site and app. Subscribe at  bloomberg.com/subscriptions/oddlots See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.